Hey there thanks for the consideration. While we have your Canadian attention i would like to know how you Canadians deal with down tangled crops IJ Do you windrow wheat for instance even if ripe. I remember a lot of windrowing when iwas there 14yrs ago. We only really windrow canola and use crop lifters for tangled lodged cereals. My wife wants to windrow our wheat as it is so tangled and twisted some standing ( you know it'd be better all down type of thing )I see her point windrowing instead of fighting feeding into harvester ie;slow _time_fuel. Only windrow a day or two in front of harvester as stubble will be low and was thinking of putting crop lifters on windrower worried about shelling out though IJ Your thoughts IJIJIJIJIJ thanks pengs5