The over weight CAT comment was a bit of a joke, but my fear is this. If we ever have to harvest in the mud where we make ruts almost from one end of the field to the other (We did in 2000 and 05),I'd rather have a lighter combine. I dont know the weight of the new CRs but I know the Case combines are about 21,000, the TRs 22,000, and the CATs around 35,000. In 2005 one CAT owner here in southern Manitoba said the only way he could go was to put tracks on his machine. If it werent for their weight I'd seriously consider one. What's the weight of the new CRsIJ