Combines dairyman get a grip tbran all others HElP

[junior]

Neighbors have a F diesel which had a six row head on it when the previous owner had it. I've run it with the four row head and you can't put enough in it's mouth. As far as the rear weight, it had loaded tires with wheel weights.

 

[Nobul]

Neighbour had two F gas running with 6-30 orange heads 7-8 years ago. Made for good bunny hunting- they were only being dogged out at about 1.5 mph. This was a real budget operation. I always felt the l was slightly small than the 7700 series by threshing capacity (relative cylinder size) but would out-clean them.

 

[Russ_SCPA]

There are several F3's in here pushing 6-30 heads in good corn. I can't say as an F3 will out perform a 6620, but an M3 sure will. I would say an M3 splits between a 6620 and a 7720. F3 just a touch less than a 6620. But a good operator makes a huge difference. I have seen a K2 push a 6600. Both with 4-38 heads. The dude running the 6600 needed "help".

 

[T__langan]

I know for a fact that a properly set F3 can outharvest a 6620. I wouldn't be afraid to pit an M3 vs a 7720 - it would be a battle, but I think the M3 has the potential. As for specs, remember what your wife told you - "It ain't the size of your equipment, it's how you USE what you've got!" Tom langan

 

[Davey_G]

If you re-read dairyman's post he says F is between 44xx and 66xx, M is between 66xx and 77xx, and l is between 77xx and 88xx. This is what I have always been told as well. Dave

 

[dairyman]

Well, I think YOU need to get out of the hooch and re-read my post with a clear head! I haven't seen any 6620 in my area with 6 row heads. Most guys that still have that combine have 4 row. Also most 6620 here are Sidehill models and much heavier than an F, which takes more power and causes more compaction. To put a 6 row head on an F, you fill the rear tires with fluid and put donut weights on the wheels. The l and M had an option of "fat back" wheels, which was a solid cast wheel_hub in leiu of a steel rim. I'm not sure if that was available for the F. Putting a washer under the slip clutch spring goes a long way to solving the clean grain capacity issue. Several 94xx and even 95xx model JD with 4 row heads here. I don't know how they get thru the field without knocking down the adjoining rows. The ground is yellow behind them because they probably aren't running full or at least are not set properly. I bale stalks and see what gets left behind many different combines. The John Deere's have the most grain on the ground - I don't know if it's the combine's fault or if it's just that the JD operators don't care.

 

[Southpaw]

We ran our F3 with a 13ft head against a 6620 with 16ft head in wheat. We could cover almost as much ground as the 6620. Maybe lacked a couple of acres per day but our sample was cleaner and the JD left plenty for the birds.

 

[Rockpicker]

The JD operator's don't care. I get a very clean sample with my 8820 and no loss out the back.

 

[tbran]

I don't want to get into this but I try to respond to questions. A 6620 is bigger than a F or F2 or F3 in 150+ bu corn in theory; by how much more or less depends on operator and conditions. The open grate on the Deere is a big advantage. Under 150bu_a it gets closer. In the hands of a good operator the F2 will handle a 6 row head, we sold several. The F2 without chaffer levelers and air flow grain saver doesn't like hill sides as neither do any conventionals of any brand ceptin the C62. However a F3 with wide spaced bars or spike tooth will walk beside a 6620 in soybeans_ wheat. The M2 will shell nearly twice the corn in a day over the F3 in high yielding corn with a 6 row head on both. M2's with 6 row head at over 4.5 mph in 150bu_a corn start walker loss problems - l2's at about 5.5 M2's = 7720's plus or minus and l2's and 8820's are about the same again depending on conditions. An l3 with a spike and 20 ft head is an awsome getter of soybeans. When comparing to Deere we have found that when pushed they tend to ride over more crop due to more sieving action whereas the Gleaner uses more pneumatic cleaning . Deere has a longer throw on the walkers than a F does so walker loss on the F is a real limiting factor in corn. The performance of combines are a direct result of who sets them up. A combine that feeds perfect, has proper mechanical setup for conditions, has proper hp and gov. setting will outperform the norm and vice versa. Gleaner owners and operators always seem to know their machines in greater detail than competition as a whole, therefore stories of exceptional performance is believable. I still stand by the old statisic that there are a higher PERCENTAGE of Gleaners running over 15 yrs old than that of any other brand.