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[NDDan]

You can compare what you find hear on hyperizing N5, 6, and 7s to your R60 with the P1. Not hard to see the guys love the hyperized P1 rotor setup for corn and beans. If your thinking about switching to different rotor you might also consider the Bison. Had a guy stick one in his R7 this fall and was thilled in each new crop he started to harvest. If edible beans and or sunflowers are in your rotation I would surely consider the Bison. This guy with R7 will no doubt be sticking one in his N7 also by next fall. I would suggest you go with the channel helicals no matter what setup you go with. You'll want a strong discharge beater or chopper setup to handle the high flows. Here's a link to one of the conversations on Bison. Good luck http:__combineforums.proboards42.com_index.cgiIJboard=gleanerandaction=displayandthread=7188

 

[SRH]

Corn and Soybeans are the main crops every once and a while we have some wheat. Main problem is with green soybeans. I took out all reverser bars a year ago and it works better but still not the best. Dan do you have a phone n so when we dig into it and start to hybridize it we can contact someone with questions.

 

[PETE]

For the $$$ you cannot beat a fully Hyperized P1. This includes channel helicals throughout the cage. I have a Hyperized P1 (N6) with channel helicals in the seperator and I am looking at putting them in the thresher end because of green stem beans (rumble). The next most cost effective in my opinion is a Hyperized P3 rotor with channel helicals in the seperator. The P3 bars are more agressive and they hold onto the green stems better. With the introduction of the CDF used P3 rotors have gotten reasonable. I have a P3 that needs thresher bars that I am considering installing in my N6 if I decide against channel helicals in the threshers. The jury is still out on that one. JMHO, Pete Hinrichsen

 

[PETE]

My cell n is 563*357*7992 if you want to talk more on my experiences with my fully hyperized P1. It never hurts to get as much information before proceeding. Pete

 

[brian]

I suggest installing either PF, Bison, or St. Johns (not in any particular order).

 

[NDDan]

I like that SRH. Hyperdize, Hybridize. My tech likes to call these machines Supersized! Here's our web address: www.hurttequipment.com

 

[NDDan]

I'd strongly suggest channel helicals on thresher side. The old unshimmed flat iron helical only has the leeding edge to work with rasp bars to move material over. The flat iron helical only stands 3_8" high when new and when the square corner rounds off you lose a lot of control in crops where straw is resistant to slide. I don't believe you will gain much with P3 if helicals are not helping you out. Another thing to watch if your thinking on a used P3 is that bars were not extended to discharge untill sometime after 2000. Many of these P3s in previous 10 years never had the bars extended. I would rank extending bars to discharge on early P3s as a monumental improvement. Some of the guys that swaped out a non-extended bar P3 for some alternate rotor saw huge improvements and not necesarily because of alternate design but because the bars worked with helicals to move the straw all the way to area ahead of discharge. It's alarming to think of all the prior to 2000ish P3s that are still struggling without extended bars.

 

[PETE]

Thanks Dan, The P3 that I have has the extented bars and the rasp bars in the seperator are the wide spaced bars. If I go with the P3 I will have to buy new chrome wide spaced bars for the thresher end. I suspected the same thing about the stacked flat helicals in the thresher end as they are somewhat rounded on the "live" side and are losing their grip on the wet bean straw causing constipation. I thought about installing the "Hyperized" P3 and turning the stacked flat helicals around to get the good edge on the "live" side but I am afraid that will only put off the inevitable as that edge will not last very long and there is only about 1_2 the griping area compared to channel helicals. I think I am time and $$$ ahead by installing chrome channel helicals in the thresher now rather than later. Plus the chrome thresher bars I have in the "Hyperized" P1 have less than 1000 acres on them. It is begining to look like a no-brainer. Green stem beans are here to stay. Just think out load with the keyboard. Pete Hinrichsen

 

[R_O_M]

Our P1 equipped N7 was hopeless in green material [ and bloody amazing in dead dry crops ] and sometimes it seemed the rotor would come out of the machine when harvesting really green or tough material. A very cheap and quite effective fix came from JR here in SE Oz for this problem before the channel helicals were available and before the internet made the exchange of so much valuable information so easy to do with others around the world. We shimmed all the helicals out with about 2 mm flat but the shims were about 10 or 12mm wider than the flat bar helical. This 10 _ 12 mm extra width of the shims was placed on the live side of the helicals so that a smooth corner surface between the shim and the helical was created for the material to slide along. This extended width shim prevented material on the live side of the helical from catching in and being held by the cage holes as it slid along the helical. The result was a dramatically improved flow of green and tough material through the thresher and a very large reduction in the at times frightening rumbling when green or very tough material was being harvested.

 

[NDDan]

Sorry I didn't realize you even stacked the flat iron helicals on thresher side. Did you do it like shown in hyper mods. It looks like they added a couple helicals and stacked them on just two doors. Is this the way you did itIJ What does hyper thinkIJ Have you used channel iron on thresher side and or is your recommendation updated from what we see on hyper mod siteIJ Thanks