Case-IH off topic mxm 120

Chads

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There's a couple of MXM 140's around here. The only thing I know guys are having trouble with is some electrical stuff. One of the local techs just got back from school, and said that the company is doing updates to fix them. No major problems, just annoying stuff. It should be fixed in new production. Mechanically, the tractors have been good. CaseIH blockman swore up and down a year ago that these tractors will be better than the MX's. We'll see. Chads
 

FR

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There is a lot of bugs in them, now go threw the dealers shop and you will seewhat I mean the old maximun 120s are way better or get a new McCormick even the New Holland dealers think there junk and thats where the MXMs came from.
 

sidewinder

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go for the older mx series or mc cormick. The guy I farm together with has a 5140, mx 120 and every year leases a new case.. last year was a mxm and this year a mxu... put approx 200 hours in each doing hay. If you go from and older tractor to a mxm or mxu they are really nice but there is no comparison to the mx series... If your lookin at new the mxu is nicer than the mxm. the 5140 has 11000 hrs and the mx 120 has 9000 and both havent skipped a beat. Just my opinion after running those tractors, Ed
 

Chads

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New Holland dealers around here have sold a lot of the TS's which I beleive are the common platform with the MXM. No serious complaints I'm aware of. Two Dairymen I sell hay to have TS 110's and absolutely love them. One has 1200 hrs in one year with no service calls. Only problems was dropping a big square bale on the hood:(. Chads
 

Chads

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What did you like_dislike, comparing the MXM's to the MX'sIJ What problems did you haveIJ Just interested. We're looking at "importing" a high hour MX 110-120-135 from Florida. I have a 5140 and love it, except the hydraulics are little slow on loader work. Then I think, hey, if it was green I would have overhauled the transmission by know;0) Chads
 

JHEnt

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First New Holland dealers don't think their junk. The onlt problem with the Case boys is that most of them have not sent mechanics to lean about working on NH tractors. In fact there are only 2 problems they have had with that entire series. On the 175 and 190 they have had trouble with the wire harness going to the electro-viscous fan clutch and on all TM_MXM the electro hydraulic remotes if one version of software is downloaded by the dealer then the bad software will corrupt the controller.There may have been some tractors that got the bad software on them at the factory but they are very few. The fact is that the MXM chasis_powertrain has been in use by NH for about a decade. Just to make a point there are alot mre problems with TG's_MX'sthan with the MXM_TM series machines. The design of the MX transmission is itself overly complex useing about a dozen solinoids to control it with valve blocks located both on the side as well as on top of the trans housing requiring a cab lifting tool just to do a simple repair. They also use plastic oil feeder tubes to deliver the pressure oil to the clutches.The MX_TG uses a separate dump solinoid just to feather the trans. NH on the otherhand has used pulse width modulating solinoids which alows the computer to pulse the power to the sol up to 500 times a second to enguage the clutch packs. This alows far fewer solinoids to run a 16 speed trans. Even the Funk built Ford design trans in the old 70 series NH was smoother than the MX_TG trans is today and delivered the oil through drilled passages through the cast housing. The MXM_TM also have the 7.5l genesis engine. Although fueled much lower than the MX_TG Cummins_CDC 8.3l is at least it will start when its 20 degrees outside without either or heating.
 

FR

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local large New Holland dealer of 25plus years is the one pushing the McCormicks says way better tracter went through the Case dearlership and seen the MXms torn apart technicans say it is on going, never ends I have not had experince, but was thinking of tradeing mx135 for a MXM and was warned, so I just continue to run the 135 pushing 4000 hrs with no problems.
 

FR

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Thats funny about starting, mine started last week in -30 below wind chill with just a snort of either and I will take the magnums over the over the outdated Genisus.
 

JHEnt

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Well that depends, with a Bosche pump they will not start, with the CAPS fuel pump(Cummins electronic) will start but that pump has the highest warranty rate Cummins has ever had. Out of just a few the dealership I work at has sold I have already replaced 1. How long will your's lastIJ As far as outdated, basic design wise the QSC_QSX engine is very similar to the Genesis. Nothing new in either engine.
 

todd08

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You seem to be very knowledgeable on this intrigging subject for me. Does the TJ_STX use pulse width modulated valves to control the transmissionIJ Are their transmission clutches fed from plastic lines or drilled passagesIJ I have one and I used to cuss its inconsistancy, but after dealer lapped my valve body and replaced back battery, I feel it is way better. How about you know how or who knows how to control the make-up valve to constantly lock up (back art. joint) in center, so as to always have centered position. (only applies to accu-steer) Desparately needed in order to auto-steer with any accuracy. Right now just take your chances with whichever way it wants to dog-track. I have even heard farmers with 3pt guidance hitches cuss them. CNH just has not written good enough software or that pot in the hydraulic cylinder sure varies alot in reading.
 

johnboy

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Gee we must be lucky here then with our TM and lots of others who have bought TMs' in the dealer's area as we have have very little problems with it and the other owners also are getting a good run out of theirs. As a fact a close friend of mine has just bought the Case version of our TM after watching it and also using it the last couple of years and he owns a MX Case as well.
 

George_2

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Go for a McCormick MTX150. They are the replacement tractor for the MX135. Believe me, there is a good reason why so many CIH dealers are also McCormick dealers. The NH dealers will even tell you the electronic components in their 100 to 150 PTO HP tractors fail much more frequently than expected.
 

JHEnt

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I have not gotten that deep into a TJ_STX. The only 1 we sold was a TJ275 with the manual transmission. large frame 2wd tractors are the common machine around here. I'd guess only about 1 in 10 farms have an articulated tractor. Autosteer is a non issue around here (SW Il). No one has yet had any interest in the technology. In fact about half of guys with yield monitors quit taking the time to calibrate them after the 1st year, and almost none of them have GPS attached.
 

todd08

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Interesting comment on the CAPS pump, I had it break on my STX, under 1300hrs. I know I will have spend more than a dollar_hr on that tractor now, just out of warranty, under 1500hrs. Blew the piston off one of the steering rams this fall harvest. CNH is not as repected by me either. What is the difference between warranty between the 3 brands we are talking about.
 

Chads

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Funny you should mention the McCormicks, as that name comes up every now and again around our house. looked at a MTX 120 the other day, and it looks good. Specs look good. Price looks very good! Unfortunately, I'm not in the running for a new tractor right now. I'll just stick to looking for used MX's. Problem is, all the low houred ones are too high, which leaves the high houred ones. Is a 7000 hour MX worth the riskIJ Wanna sell your 135IJ I have a 7000 hr 5140 that is a great little tractor. Very dependable. Chads
 

FR

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No I can not trade now I spent to much money for this year as just purchased a grain leg setup, want to do away with augers and cross augers, after really looking close at the McCormicks I think it is a good tractor several in neighbor hood now, that kind of hurts the Case dealer cause the New Holland dealer is who is selling them. About the MX135 since new only 2 problems 1 was under warranty the other was my fault had front wheels dished out with loader and big bucket and bearings went out in front asist axel other wise it has been excellent tractor.
 

m

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I think it is intersesting how a "salesman" could possible think that there isnt a better product out there than what he is selling, how about leaving the opinions up to the people that run them not sell them.
 

JHEnt

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If you havn't actually jacked up the cab on a TG_MX and done trans work then don't make comments you can't back up. I don't sell, I have to actually fix things. As far as my personal opinion, I would take an old Ford_NH 70 series over a TG_MX anyday. Mainly because I know ther're long term reliability. I would love to have a TM155 to replace my Ford TW20 but I really can't afford one. I'm not color biased. I like the old NH TR series combines. I have a TR86. I also have a Deere 4400. I think the CaseIH axialflow is a good machine, but I also think the AFX8010 is a hydraulic nightmare.
 

Chads

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The hydraulic drives on the 8010's will be fine. How many times do you work on the Hydraulic pump,motor on the reel drives on current combines, compared to the times you replace every other chain and sprocket on the combineIJ Hydraulic pumps now are also more reliable than in the past. Chads
 

sodak

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It seems like our MXM 175 is pretty rough shifting in 7th and 13th. The dealer has calibrated the clutches, but it still seems too rough to me. Is anyone else had this problemIJ
 
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