In Deere's defense (although I'm a Gleaner owner) I just read the first entire page of Deere's forum and I didn't find ANY "bullcrap" or condecending comments at all, nor have I found the Deere forum to be any worse than some of the other forums here. I find more "crap" in other forums from people who seemingly feel insecure by Deere's excessive market-share, but I think Deere is now struggling to maintain this.